Before anyone accuses me of excessive bias against expensive Danish retailers and high prices the MOMs differential goes nowhere near explaining, the last post reminded me of a highly recomended Danish shopping site I have used in the past.
Electrical spares here are very expensive in the DIY shops, and even the national newspapers had an article on it. Their advice was to try El Salg. I did, and even for a few simple things I needed that would have cost about 350kr in the shops, they did the identical, same brand goods for 179kr, including the postage.
So there you go, and since they charge the same MOMs, what more proof do you need of the high street rip-off taking place here?
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EU VAT Regulations and their absurdity
It has been pointed out to me that there is a Danish regulation here for MOMs limits here.
Well I wasn't aware of the 280,000kr limit regulation hidden in there, but that does shift the onus onto the retailer to manage their business - you wouldn't be charged any more VAT on EU-bought items when they arrive.
Also, I wonder if that limit is even legal since websites like Figleaves and Book Depository make clear they charge UK VAT rate only. eBay previously added VAT to sellers fees at their location rate, and I'd give up selling anything through them since moving to Denmark as a result, but now eBay have felt confident enough earlier this year to move their EU jurisdiction to Luxembourg so that all EU private sellers only pay 15% VAT on their selling fees. See here http://pages.ebay.ie/sell/VAT-ie-faqs/index.html. I'm sure they bought the best legal advice going and you wonder why Germany doesn't do something about this, since they would be the biggest losers...maybe they know eBay have an ace to play?
Let me know if you can find a case where a government has dared to challenge a business regarding this murky rule.
I checked Fleggaard (50 yards into Germany) and they do charge German VAT on pick-ups but Danish MOMs on delivered goods so they're being careful, but then again they are a Danish company so probably have to be.
A shame, since it does mean that any hard-working Danish firm trying to sell on the internet is at an immediate disadvantage against counterparts from other European countries. Hence much business lost for the nation, as proven by my own occasional forays to Euroshop sites.
As I'm self-employed I'd suspect the limit is more likely to be a way of blocking companies supplying personal services rather than flow of goods. With this rule you'd always have to open a Danish branch.
As regards the taxes and blocking - If you read up on the EU, Denmark (and Sweden) are always the blocking countries whenever cross-border trade is mentioned. They are part of the reason it takes years to get the VAT rules shifted for the betterment of the majority. They just know that the taxes on everything are so much higher here than elsewhere that they'll lose out.
Well I wasn't aware of the 280,000kr limit regulation hidden in there, but that does shift the onus onto the retailer to manage their business - you wouldn't be charged any more VAT on EU-bought items when they arrive.
Also, I wonder if that limit is even legal since websites like Figleaves and Book Depository make clear they charge UK VAT rate only. eBay previously added VAT to sellers fees at their location rate, and I'd give up selling anything through them since moving to Denmark as a result, but now eBay have felt confident enough earlier this year to move their EU jurisdiction to Luxembourg so that all EU private sellers only pay 15% VAT on their selling fees. See here http://pages.ebay.ie/sell/VAT-ie-faqs/index.html. I'm sure they bought the best legal advice going and you wonder why Germany doesn't do something about this, since they would be the biggest losers...maybe they know eBay have an ace to play?
Let me know if you can find a case where a government has dared to challenge a business regarding this murky rule.
I checked Fleggaard (50 yards into Germany) and they do charge German VAT on pick-ups but Danish MOMs on delivered goods so they're being careful, but then again they are a Danish company so probably have to be.
A shame, since it does mean that any hard-working Danish firm trying to sell on the internet is at an immediate disadvantage against counterparts from other European countries. Hence much business lost for the nation, as proven by my own occasional forays to Euroshop sites.
As I'm self-employed I'd suspect the limit is more likely to be a way of blocking companies supplying personal services rather than flow of goods. With this rule you'd always have to open a Danish branch.
As regards the taxes and blocking - If you read up on the EU, Denmark (and Sweden) are always the blocking countries whenever cross-border trade is mentioned. They are part of the reason it takes years to get the VAT rules shifted for the betterment of the majority. They just know that the taxes on everything are so much higher here than elsewhere that they'll lose out.
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